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« Reply #150 on: July 04, 2020, 04:28:36 PM »

We were over in Banchory today for a good walk up the Dee and SWMBO is up at Turiff seeing her mum so we'll need a wee charge. Everything is running thru Hive including Betty. The only thing not thru Hive is the battery charging, I do that on the phone app. Quite mind blowing the way tech has converged to this stage.

 Have you got those heaters in place? Smiley
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« Reply #151 on: July 04, 2020, 05:14:00 PM »

If in place you mean sitting in the garage, then yes.  tumble
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« Reply #152 on: July 04, 2020, 05:47:15 PM »

Yep - Powervault set to charge overnight, 60C white wash washing machine load set, and ImmerSUN on timed boost.  Unfortunately my Tesla is parked 20 doors down so not sure if I'll get a chance to plug it in - although now lockdown has effectively ended, there is a lot more traffic - both cars going in and out of the shared space, but also pedestrians walking along the pavement. Probably a greater trip hazard now as a result even if I could move it outside. Hmm.


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« Reply #153 on: July 04, 2020, 06:56:42 PM »

Tomorrow the aim is 100 kWh. Game on! Smiley
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« Reply #154 on: July 05, 2020, 07:22:33 AM »

Are you guys using/needing house heating at this time of yr.?
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« Reply #155 on: July 05, 2020, 07:29:04 AM »

Certainly do. We have some days when it's bronzy time, also plenty when u need a fleece. Today is windy & cloudy. Ah Scottish summertime. I'd much rather be in Devon drinking cider! Smiley
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« Reply #156 on: July 05, 2020, 08:33:17 AM »

Wow.  I plugged the EV in first thing at 06.00 to help the grid, but no benefit to me as i am on a flat rate.   A lot of wind curtailment going on at the moment.
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« Reply #157 on: July 05, 2020, 08:41:56 AM »

I do feel a pang of guilt (very slight) as its so against our training. Yet there it is, 'please use power responsibly' with a whole new twist. Are you not fancying agile?

Went from cloudy dull to 3kW off the roof and wind blowing a hoolie  EV is charging! Surreal way to live.
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« Reply #158 on: July 05, 2020, 10:17:27 AM »

As you say does not sit comfortably.  As far as the Nat Grid etc is concerned it is cheaper to curtail production and give excess away than do much about it. The problem for me is that whilst curtailing wind some gas production is taking place and polluting. The gas is necassary to maintain spinning reserve at the moment.

A situation at the moment is that because of guaranteed prices under CfD subsidies the wind people do not care how low the wholesale price goes.

In the meantime i keep telling people how good EVs are and how they can be charged at night for so little. Long live TOU tafiffs.

For the last few weeks it has been unfortunate that all this wind as occured at W/E when demand is low.
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« Reply #159 on: July 05, 2020, 10:35:28 AM »

It's excellent that you can charge EV thru the night at a low rate. We are still in agog stage of EV ownership. On the agile guilt front I draw solace that today's draw means we have burnt no fossil fuel today and that will continue into tomorrow. I don't allow myself to think too much on the source mix of the power that hits my CU, can only go so far...
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« Reply #160 on: July 05, 2020, 12:12:00 PM »

It looks like biomass gets reduced as well as wind.  Do they get curtailment payments, or are they treated much the same as gas?
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« Reply #161 on: July 16, 2020, 11:37:00 AM »

Agile has been boringly normal for the last couple of weeks hasn't it! hysteria
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« Reply #162 on: July 18, 2020, 03:24:27 PM »

As more interconnectors to Europe are connected, the likelihood of negative pricing in the electricity markets will in my opinion decrease.
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