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« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2020, 07:17:15 PM »

I agree they are transitional. As is said howevermany posts back above: 200-mile BEVs that can be charged at 100kW+ suit almost every use-case.

However, right now, many people do not have access to overnight or at-work charging, 200-mile BEVs are expensive, and there isnít the global manufacturing capacity for tens-of-millions of cars a year. All of that will be solved over the next decade, but right now there is a place for ďself charging hybridsĒ.

As for the ďengine sizeĒ point you keep making. That too isnít true. My XC90 PHEV is a 7-seat 4x4 that can tow 2.4tonnes, it would have had a 4l V8 or big Diesel engine, but instead has a 2.0l 4-cylinder. The hybrid version of the VW Passat has a 1.4, Iíve seen plenty of hybrids with 1l engines.

Iíd have bought a BEV if one existed that fitted the needs of my family. But it didnít at the time so I bought the Volvo. Most ordinary people donít care about the propulsion they care about the badge/image and monthly payment.
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« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2020, 07:39:10 PM »

the difference is, you can plug yours in. At least a PHEV allows some capability to re-charge and drive purely on electric. There really shoudn't be an excuse for any hybrid to not have a plug anymore.
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« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2020, 07:44:13 PM »

A plug in hybrid I can understand and  see fills a gap.
 A self charging hybrid in just nonsense marketing
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« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2020, 11:55:25 PM »

In fairness to Toyota their hybrid concept was actually pretty good and looking on forums seems to achieve up to 60-70 mpg in stop/start urban traffic, in part achieved by using the Atkinson cycle for the petrol engine which improves efficiency at the expense of torque. They appear to genuinely be significantly cleaner than ICE vehicles in stop/start driving. In the 20+ years they've been around they must have made some difference, particularly to urban air quality.
What a shame, now that the technology is becoming antiquated, they decided to use that ridiculous advertising campaign!
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« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2020, 01:46:23 AM »

I think it is a sound idea,
One of my neighbours and two of my customers have them. Both get over 70MPG round the town which is way better than just an ICE on its own. The ICE is a little light weight engine. An optional plug in does seem to be beyond the wit of the management/ marketing people in the car factory.
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