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Author Topic: WIND GENERATORS Whay are thye so expensive?  (Read 15874 times)
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« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2008, 07:04:43 PM »

Nick, ..............I just noticed you have 1664 posts.

Im trying to lose weight and now youve reminded me of beer.

I have to go and get some Kronenbourg. It wont stop there cos I have to get the choccie to go with it.

Gggrrrrrrr. Your fault.

Know any good excercise to lose weight? Grin
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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2008, 08:07:25 PM »

But ive got nothing to wear !! help
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« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2008, 05:33:37 PM »

There are some people who are thicker than two short planks who carry out the most mundane jobs but can you do it?
Looks so easy to plaster, take a tire off the rim or weld aluminium doesnt it?

Have a go if you think your hard enough.

I have plastered (but its a 5 year skill), have laid one brick wall to the approval of Building Inspector, welded my boat trailer (oh and built the boat as well), installed a conservatory, fitted and plumbed in a solar panel...... and I get paid to write software.

What's my secret?  Viagra eye drops so that I look hard.   laugh
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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2008, 09:04:35 PM »

Plastering is the only thing I've ever tried that has been 'too hard'. I can plaster but it's not pretty (and flat) like it should be. Welding, engine rebuilding, car mechanics, plumbing, electrics, tree surgery, roofing, pointing, floor-laying, kitchen-building, boiler-installing, gas-piping, soldering, knocking rooms together, caving, climbing, canyoning, canoeing, diving, windsurfing, mountaineering, skiing, snowboarding, rally-driving, electronics, progamming, truck-driving were all easy (or at least easy enough). Not plastering, no. There's something tricky about plastering.

It's annoying - I hate not being good at things :-) I suspect the answer is actually simply 'lots more practice'.
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« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2008, 09:51:49 PM »


I can plaster but it's not pretty (and flat) like it should be. Welding, engine rebuilding, car mechanics, plumbing, electrics, tree surgery, roofing, pointing, floor-laying, kitchen-building, boiler-installing, gas-piping, soldering, knocking rooms together, caving, climbing, canyoning, canoeing, diving, windsurfing, mountaineering, skiing, snowboarding, rally-driving, electronics, progamming, truck-driving were all easy........



 Grin Sounds like one of those sanitary towel adverts  whistlie    (Sorry wookey - just jesting  Tongue)


......and reminds me of that old joke about the chap that writes in to Tampax stating....'I've been using you product for a fortnight now, but I still can't swim, ride a bike or play tennis'   Roll Eyes


I'll get me coat  bike


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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2008, 11:12:53 AM »

that's why they get,

"loadsamoney"

the work has to be carried out with vast quantities of cash about ones person or else it is quite impossible, that's the trick with plastering.

My attempts failed purely because of a lack of bodily cash, hence the rough cast, soon after, I moved onto a boat!  I'm with wookey and don't like to not be able to do something.

Billy the Barge

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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2008, 11:57:23 PM »

I'm not particularly good at plastering, but my Dad is. The tricks are 1)NEVER use old plaster - it goes off too fast. 2)Plaster goes on thin - don't try to make up variations in surface with plaster (it will sink and crack) 3)Never rush it. You need to take your time. The final finish will need to wait until it starts to go off. 4)Spray wall with water (using something like an old kitchen cleaner sprayer) as needed to soften surface for smoothing out marks 5)Do plastering at least a couple of times a week.
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« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2008, 12:12:26 AM »

and 6) When it looks ok walk away.     One bad stroke can ruin the finish, the surface drags when it starts to go off and the more you fiddle with it the worse it gets.

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« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2008, 01:13:41 PM »

and of course 7..here in Ireland go off and get plastered in the nearest pub Grin
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« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2008, 02:12:35 PM »



 Grin Sounds like one of those sanitary towel adverts  whistlie    (Sorry wookey - just jesting  Tongue)


......and reminds me of that old joke about the chap that writes in to Tampax stating....'I've been using you product for a fortnight now, but I still can't swim, ride a bike or play tennis'   Roll Eyes


Now you know why girlies can multi task.  Grin


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« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2008, 02:14:41 PM »

The more you play with it, the wetter it gets.
And cement too. Cool
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« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2008, 02:23:17 PM »

The more you play with it, the wetter it gets.
And cement too. Cool
Shocked Grin
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« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2008, 12:38:21 AM »

My reasons for attempting plastering are purely cost - the local plasterer in Monmouth who is admittedly very good works on this basis. You offer him 200 for doing two very small walls. He begrudgingly accepts on the basis that 1)someone else mixes the plaster for him and to his expectations 2)the wall is already skimmed and ready for plastering so he's not got to do any prep. It then takes him two hours to do the job. During those two hours he has a couple of cigarette breaks and also tells you about his upcoming holiday in Florida which, wait for it, extends from October to February - he doesn't see why he should put up with winter.
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« Reply #28 on: November 18, 2008, 07:50:30 AM »

Ah yes, ........Harry Enfield had it sussed all those years ago when he caracartured "Loads of Money"

I bet you chap walkd out and left the mess on the floor, expected someone else to wash up HIS tools and demanded cash, there and then.
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« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2009, 12:09:47 PM »

While this site does offer good value...the majority of companies that offer renewable energy or home/micro-generation technologies are RIP OFF MERCHANTS...

I am considering building my own VAWT and have realised that the cost to do so is very small compared to that of buying a commercial wind turbine (even if i get other people to do specialist tasks for me such as welding)

and i bring you proof that here in the UK we get ripped off...

we have all probably heard of the Quiet revolution helix VAWT.... and yours for the paltry sum of 25,000 pounds.... not to mention the 2-5000 for the mast and 4,600 for instillation....
http://www.quietrevolution.co.uk/qr5.htm

but quality costs...someone has said.... why then...can i buy the EXACT same product, from the very company who actually developed this VAWT, branded as TURBY for 11,000 euros???

in fact a full install from the TURBY company would cost about half of what you pay for the unit alone from quiet revolution, the uk company
http://www.turby.nl/99-downloads/Turby-NL-Prijs_inidicatie-V0.9.pdf

if thats not evidence that on the whole the market in the uk is over priced then i dont know what is

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